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		<title>By: Robert Hruzek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Hruzek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two minutes! Wow! In business they tell you about the "elevator speech" - 30 seconds or less. Think you can rise to &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; challenge? :-D

But you're right. I always thought the hardest part of any paper was the abstract - condensing a bazillion pages of research to one paragraph! But it was a good exercise nevertheless.

In fact, that's a problem I have right now in my new consulting job. Coming up with a coherent description of what we can do for a client isn't so easy when the actual work can be pretty, well, "fluid", if you get my meanin'. :-\

But hopefully I'm learning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two minutes! Wow! In business they tell you about the &#8220;elevator speech&#8221; - 30 seconds or less. Think you can rise to <i>that</i> challenge? <img src='http://middlezonemusings.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But you&#8217;re right. I always thought the hardest part of any paper was the abstract - condensing a bazillion pages of research to one paragraph! But it was a good exercise nevertheless.</p>
<p>In fact, that&#8217;s a problem I have right now in my new consulting job. Coming up with a coherent description of what we can do for a client isn&#8217;t so easy when the actual work can be pretty, well, &#8220;fluid&#8221;, if you get my meanin&#8217;. :-\</p>
<p>But hopefully I&#8217;m learning.</p>
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		<title>By: amypalko</title>
		<link>http://middlezonemusings.com/uh-say-what/#comment-4064</link>
		<dc:creator>amypalko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a good rule of thumb in our dept amongst the phd students, which is if you can describe your thesis in under 2 minutes to someone outwith academia, then you know you have a good handle on your project.  When you are engaged in a project of that magnitude, you are invariably asked at dinner parties the polite question of, "What is your research on?".  Often the person asking the question doesn't even actually want to hear the answer, but occasionally you get someone who does, and you don't want to lose them while explaining some complex literary theory or your convoluted methodology.  
It took me about 2 years to master my dinner party answer, and I now precisely what my thesis is all about.  I'm not convinced the two are mutually exclusive :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a good rule of thumb in our dept amongst the phd students, which is if you can describe your thesis in under 2 minutes to someone outwith academia, then you know you have a good handle on your project.  When you are engaged in a project of that magnitude, you are invariably asked at dinner parties the polite question of, &#8220;What is your research on?&#8221;.  Often the person asking the question doesn&#8217;t even actually want to hear the answer, but occasionally you get someone who does, and you don&#8217;t want to lose them while explaining some complex literary theory or your convoluted methodology.<br />
It took me about 2 years to master my dinner party answer, and I now precisely what my thesis is all about.  I&#8217;m not convinced the two are mutually exclusive <img src='http://middlezonemusings.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Middle Zone Musings &#187; Choose Your Words Carefully!</title>
		<link>http://middlezonemusings.com/uh-say-what/#comment-4057</link>
		<dc:creator>Middle Zone Musings &#187; Choose Your Words Carefully!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oh, and you may want to subscribe to my feed. Thanks, and a tip o' the hat to ya!As a follow-up to my last post, I have a few questions for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Oh, and you may want to subscribe to my feed. Thanks, and a tip o&#8217; the hat to ya!As a follow-up to my last post, I have a few questions for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hruzek</title>
		<link>http://middlezonemusings.com/uh-say-what/#comment-4055</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Hruzek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Joanna - Yep; been there too!

That's why it's so important to give some thought to who's really listening. In fact, this particular forum makes it even more complicated because of the international aspect of our audience. Sometimes things just don't translate all that well.

@ Kris - I don't think you need to eliminate them completely - after all, reading is supposed to be learning as well. But you &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; need to be careful to explain them, at least in context, or you'll leave your readers floundering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Joanna - Yep; been there too!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s so important to give some thought to who&#8217;s really listening. In fact, this particular forum makes it even more complicated because of the international aspect of our audience. Sometimes things just don&#8217;t translate all that well.</p>
<p>@ Kris - I don&#8217;t think you need to eliminate them completely - after all, reading is supposed to be learning as well. But you <i>do</i> need to be careful to explain them, at least in context, or you&#8217;ll leave your readers floundering.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://middlezonemusings.com/uh-say-what/#comment-4054</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

I, too, am a subscriber who finds your blog valuable. 

In addition to the techniques mentioned in your block, I would also suggest that you also keep slang and idioms to a minimum when you don't know your group.  Last month, I got an E-mail from someone who didn't understand the phrase "Marshall your forces".  She demanded to know who Marshall was and why I brought him up.  You would think I would learn, but no. 

I recently made a comment on a group that I was "playing devils advocate by saying thus and so" and boy did I get jumped on!  No one understood that a devils advocate deliberately states the opposite in order to start a conversation/discussion.  (I am still smarting from that one, can you tell?)

No slang, no jargon, no idioms.  I am learning:-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>I, too, am a subscriber who finds your blog valuable. </p>
<p>In addition to the techniques mentioned in your block, I would also suggest that you also keep slang and idioms to a minimum when you don&#8217;t know your group.  Last month, I got an E-mail from someone who didn&#8217;t understand the phrase &#8220;Marshall your forces&#8221;.  She demanded to know who Marshall was and why I brought him up.  You would think I would learn, but no. </p>
<p>I recently made a comment on a group that I was &#8220;playing devils advocate by saying thus and so&#8221; and boy did I get jumped on!  No one understood that a devils advocate deliberately states the opposite in order to start a conversation/discussion.  (I am still smarting from that one, can you tell?)</p>
<p>No slang, no jargon, no idioms.  I am learning:-))</p>
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		<title>By: Joanna Young</title>
		<link>http://middlezonemusings.com/uh-say-what/#comment-4053</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanna Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Robert, I've tried the listen out for your name technique and it can seriously backfire if you wake up from your daydream with absolutely no idea what they're all talking about!

I think Mike's right about knowing your listener, because you can achieve blah blah even with no jargon and the plainest of words if your material isn't relevant or interesting to them.

Joanna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert, I&#8217;ve tried the listen out for your name technique and it can seriously backfire if you wake up from your daydream with absolutely no idea what they&#8217;re all talking about!</p>
<p>I think Mike&#8217;s right about knowing your listener, because you can achieve blah blah even with no jargon and the plainest of words if your material isn&#8217;t relevant or interesting to them.</p>
<p>Joanna</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hruzek</title>
		<link>http://middlezonemusings.com/uh-say-what/#comment-4052</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Hruzek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Robert - Thanks for dropping by, and welcome to the Middle Zone!

@ Brad - Yes, I've heard that advice many times. Unfortunately, it's so easy to forget in the heat of a presentation, or even in a simple discussion!

I know there's a whole group of people who absolutely HATE PowerPoint, but for me that's one of its values - it forces me to think in simpler, more universal "bites" and leave the jargon on the cutting room floor.

@ Mike - You got it in one, buddy! Sometimes you can see the "deer in the headlights" effect in their eyes, but sometimes not. Blah. Blah. :-\</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Robert - Thanks for dropping by, and welcome to the Middle Zone!</p>
<p>@ Brad - Yes, I&#8217;ve heard that advice many times. Unfortunately, it&#8217;s so easy to forget in the heat of a presentation, or even in a simple discussion!</p>
<p>I know there&#8217;s a whole group of people who absolutely HATE PowerPoint, but for me that&#8217;s one of its values - it forces me to think in simpler, more universal &#8220;bites&#8221; and leave the jargon on the cutting room floor.</p>
<p>@ Mike - You got it in one, buddy! Sometimes you can see the &#8220;deer in the headlights&#8221; effect in their eyes, but sometimes not. Blah. Blah. :-\</p>
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		<title>By: Mike DeWitt</title>
		<link>http://middlezonemusings.com/uh-say-what/#comment-4051</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike DeWitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blah blah blah blah smart aleck blah blah blah what Brad said.

I think the biggest challenge is that a lot of meaning and context are inside the listener's head, and unless you know the listener well, you don't really understand those two elements, and that's what generates the blah blah blah effect.  Blah blah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blah blah blah blah smart aleck blah blah blah what Brad said.</p>
<p>I think the biggest challenge is that a lot of meaning and context are inside the listener&#8217;s head, and unless you know the listener well, you don&#8217;t really understand those two elements, and that&#8217;s what generates the blah blah blah effect.  Blah blah.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Shorr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Shorr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice points. Jargon is the enemy of understanding, no doubt about it. The safest approach is to assume the audience knows nothing about your subject matter. It's fairly easy to ratchet up the technical talk in a meeting or a presentation, but it's difficult to simplify on the fly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice points. Jargon is the enemy of understanding, no doubt about it. The safest approach is to assume the audience knows nothing about your subject matter. It&#8217;s fairly easy to ratchet up the technical talk in a meeting or a presentation, but it&#8217;s difficult to simplify on the fly.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Michel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts.  I just added you to my Google News Reader. Keep up the good work.  Look forward to reading more from you in the future.

Robert Michel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts.  I just added you to my Google News Reader. Keep up the good work.  Look forward to reading more from you in the future.</p>
<p>Robert Michel</p>
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